so how exactly does this md/phd thing work?

Perhaps this whole MD/PhD thing deserves some explanation. Or perhaps I just don’t really have anything else to write about and am using this topic as a filler post. You be the judge.

Let’s not go into why I chose to torture myself so just yet. Let’s just focus on what’s involved in this torture.

The Medical Scientist Training Program (MSTP) was established in 1964 by the National Institute of General Medical Sciences (NIGMS) to address the need for investigators who are well trained in both basic science and clinical research. According to the NIGMS, there are 40 participating programs and 75 medical schools that offer combined MD/PhD degrees without funding from the NIGMS.

So what exactly is involved? At my school, the combined degrees are expected to take seven years to complete. We start out in medical school, finishing the first two years of medical school (the basic science part) and passing our USMLE Step 1 before leaving medical school to start our graduate work in our area of interest. During the first summer of medical school (which is the closest that we get to the summer vacations we’ve been used to), we don’t get to kick back and relax or travel to exotic places or even catch our breath. Instead, we are required to rotate through a number of labs in our area of interest to try to find the lab that we want to do our thesis work in. As I mentioned earlier, instead of going on to the wards during our third year of the program, we start our grad school work. Depending on the field we are going into, graduate courses need to be taken to fulfill the PhD degree requirements. A field closely related to medicine, such as physiology, will have a lot of overlap with the medical school curriculum, leading to fewer courses needing to be taken (or so they claim). In contrast, a field such as biomedical engineering, which isn’t so related to medicine, requires more coursework to be taken. Simultaneously with the coursework, we are expected to be working in the lab (either rotating through labs if we haven’t yet chosen one or in our chosen lab). Graduate programs tend to be a little more flexible with MD/PhD students as well—how this so-called flexibility manifests really depends on the specific graduate program. After completing our required graduate coursework, we must go through the torture that is the qualifying exam just as in a PhD-only program. Then we are free to complete our research, all of which should take a mere three years. Once we’ve completed our thesis work to the satisfaction of the powers-that-be, we’re released back into medical school, where we complete our last two years of medical school. There is supposedly some flexibility in the curriculum for us during the last two years of med school as well, since we usually don’t start right on time to begin “third” year with the rest of our MD-only classmates—however, I’ve heard that they’re becoming less and less flexible (which means I’ll really be screwed by the time I return).

And that brings the grand total to seven years, if we’re lucky. If we don’t complete our thesis work in three years, we just keep going until we do (but the funding just might not, depending on the school and the program).

So where am I in this whole grand scheme? I’m just going over the hump that is the middle. I have one year left before going back to med school IF I stop conveniently sabotaging my own experiments. It wouldn’t be so bad if I knew for a fact that all I have left is this one year. But I don’t. So it’s just sheer torture.

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